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SARI DHARAM is Religion of Santal adivasi.

SARI DHARAM is Religion of Santal adivasi. SARNA is religion of other adivasi like Munda, Oraon, Ho, including Santals of Bengal, Jkd, Bihar, Assam and Odisha. And some adivasi converted into Hindu and Cristianity. But, Only Santal people follow SARI DHARAM and already SARI DHARAM has recognized to West Bengal state and central Govt. West Bengal Backward Classes Welfare Department, Memo No- 942CRI/1-3CRI 2000 Date: 21/10/2000 clearly mentioned that Sari Dharam is a Recognized Tribal Religion of the Santals & they have come under the preview of the Marriage Act 1954. In the census of 1991, 1,63,070 no of Santal people supported Sari Dharam and Indian Census Board recognized Sari Dharam in 2002. in this regard govt. given notice (notice no - TAB.11015(R)/1991/6074/(30.10.2002) to all the District Magistrate of West Bengal to awared to improve Sari Dharam.
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  1. Your blog was absolutely fantastic! Great deal of great information and this can be useful some or maybe the other way. Keep updating your blog,anticipating to get more detailed contents.
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  2. All India Sari Dharam Conference 2015 was organised in Durgapur, Bardhaman, West Bengal & 2016 Conference will be organised in Bankura District Jaher Than Ground, near Bankura,(Bus stand)West Bengal on 12.11.2016 & 13.11.2016. All Santhal's are cordially invited to this Bharat Jakat Sari Dharam Baisi Conference 2016.

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    1. Babu Itan, could you give us the details of the SARI DHARAM ? We awaiting your Articles on it.

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    2. Yes Sir, I give you an article that written on our SARI DHORAM.


      SARI DHOROM part-1
      “The Santhal – clan of India” is one of the oldest clan of the world. In India this clan is called aborigines. The religion prevalent in this clan is called “Sari Dharam”. In this religion there is a great mythology named “Jomsim Binti”. Here, there is the theme and the details of religions customs and rituals of “Sari – Dharam”. “Jomsim Binti” describes the great savior “Thakur”, the creator of the universe, the details of his creation, the first man and women – Pilchu Haram, Pilchu Burhi, Flora and Fauna and the creation of the seas and rivers and all other water bodies.

      “Jomsim Binti” is a mythology based “Holy-writ”. The “Thakur” himself sent a God named Jomsim” to this earth to spread his glory among the people. During the worship of this God this “Holy-writ” is spoken out. So, this mythology is called “Jamsim Binti”. In recent times this mythology is found in written form. This mythology is mostly accepted among the Santhals as “Holy-writ” Till now this “Binti” was passed on from one generation to next generation in oral form but now it is available in written form. The Santhals lead their social and cultural lives by following “Sari-Dharam”.
      According to “Jomsim Binti”, this universe has three clear divisions like “Sermapuri” or Heaven, “Dhartipuri” or Earth and Patalpuri or underground. The great creator himself (Thakur) and his wife Thakurain lived in this Heaven. In Patalpuri, there was only water and water alone and in between “Patalpuri” and “Sermapur”, there was this “Dhartipuri” which was round in shape and made of earth. According to this mythology, in the initial stage this universe was a deeply dark and endless inert mass. To its North–East direction there was a great mountain range named “Luguburu Ghantabare”. There was a great cave in this mountain and the mouth of this cave was covered with a great chunk of stone. “Thakur” (The Creator) thought of creating Gods and Goddesses with a view to spreading His glory in the universe and getting their help in creation. To do this, “Thakur” kept the earth on His index finger and kept it spinning in great motion. The Earth maintained its spinning motion in the great space and this universe too kept on moving. Due to this violent spinning the stony cover of the great mountain cave called “Dhirigarsini” slid and whirl of wind started coming out. “Thakur” (The Creator) created one by one God and Goddesess from the great cave of “Luguburu Ghantabare.” Among these Gods “Marangburu” is most powerful God.In Santali God is called Boga.



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    3. SARI DHORAM part-2
      “Thakur” gave “Marangburu” the great responsibility of bringing up the first man and woman and making this earth favorable for all the creature to live in.“Marangburu” also maintained a great relation and communication between the Gods of “Sermapuri” (Heaven) and “Thakur” “Marangburu”, his elder sister “Jaher Era” and his brother “Dharom” were engaged in the service of “Thakur” in “Sermapuri”. Jaher Era was engaged in cleaning the place of “Thakur”. Younger brother “Dharma” was engaged to arrange food for “Thakur” and “Thakurain”. “Marangburu” was in sole responsibility to supervise the “Chounria Mela” or the assembly of Gods of “Thakur” in heaven. From this “Chounria Mela” (assembly of Gods) the three worlds (viz. the heaven, the earth and the internal regions) were ruled. “Marangburu” would reach all the decisions taken by “Thakur” (the Creator) in consultation with other members of assembly of Gods to other section of the heaven. “Marangburu” again was in sole charge of bringing up the first man and woman “Pilchu Haram” and “PilchuBurhi”.

      Thus, “Mararngburu” had to bear great responsibility both among the Gods and among man and woman. It is also known from “Jomsim Binti” that Thakur- Thakurain once came down to the Earth from Heaven and with them came down all the Gods and Goddesses to Earth. At that time as there was no Trace of water, there was no life or trees, with a view to creating life on Earth Thakur instructed all the Gods to dig up well in search of water. The work of digging halted due to a very hard layer under the earth. It was possible to pierce through the hard layer with the help of Thakur’s “Barchhi Hapa” (Sceptre). As soon as the hard layer was pierced there was a forceful fountain of water coming out of the “Patalpuri” (Internal region). It was water, and water. The earth was inundated; “Thakur” with all his Gods came up to Heaven through “torehsutom” (lightening). The earth remained inundated. It was like an endless ocean. In this water “Thakur” created aquatic animals like prawn, sheat fish, crabs, crocodile, tortoise, worm,whale, oyster, etc.
      “Thakur” would observe the great ocean from Heaven and sometimes, would come down with Thakurain to bathe in the ocean. They would come down and go back through “torehsutom” (lightening). At that time Thakur was obsessed with the thought of creating man. One day when Thakur and Thakurain were busy in bathing, Thakurain had some dirt from her neck and held it in her palm and made one drake and duck and prayed to Great Thakur to give them life. At that time the Great Thakur was deeply meditating to create man. To honour the desire of Thakurain he gave an “ONG” (a blow from the mouth) to the two models of drake and duck. They instantly got life and started to swim in great joy. The drake (Hans) and the duck (Hansil) started to grow eating already created fish, oyster, snail etc as their food and taking rest on the lotus leaf created by all powerful Thakur. In course of time duck conceived and laid two eggs on the lotus leaf. Under the grace of Thakur two human off spring came out of the two eggs. One was male and the other was female. And they were the first man – “Pilchu Haram” and first woman - “Pilchu Burhi”. These two human offspring started to grow on the lotus leaf. Thakur understood that if the Sunken earth was not lifted from under the water those two human offspring could not be survive and so advised Marangburu to take imitative. Marangburu said to the great tortoise to float on the water and then he placed a great golden disc of the great Thakur on him. Then he asked the king of worm to bring mud from the depth of the water world. When Marangburu got the mud he kept it on the golden disc and created land measuring to one third of the earth.

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    4. SARI DHORAM part-3
      On the other hand, the lotus leave was almost sinking under the weight of the ever growing human children. For their safety and security the drake and the duck (Hans and Hansil) lifted them on their back and kept on flying in the sky. Their appeal and cry for a safe place for keeping the children was echoing in heaven. Upon hearing their cry, “Thakur” instructed Marangburu to hasten making up the land mass on the earth. When the land was made favourable for the human children, “Thakur” advised the Hans and Hansil to put down their children on the earth. The Hans and Hansil came down on to the earth to put their children on the surface of the earth and went back to heaven and merged with the great “Thakur” and Thakuran”. Practically this Hans and Hansil were a part of the great “Thakur” and Thakurain”. Thus, the life given by all powerful “Thakur” took shape in body through Hans and Hansil.

      Thakur gave another responsibility to Marangburu to grow the first human children “pilchu Haram – Pilchu Burhi” and to make favourable condition on earth for their habitation. Marangburu got help from his elder sister, Jaherera and youngest brother, Dharom Gosain to do this. Marangburu got them (Pilchu Haram-Pilchu Burhi) married. They had been living so long as a brother and a sister but Marangburu made them drunken to ignore their relation and they were united as husband and wife. And they gave birth to so many children. The earth, thus, was full of human habitation and the desire of Thakur was fulfilled. The duty of Marangburn was still not over. He taught humans the customs and ritual of chhatiar (ceremony of putting rice to child’s mouth) for the first time, marriages, last rites etc. Thus, Marangburu was both the saviour of mankind and the “Guru” (Preceptor). In the Santhal community there is no tradition of Preceptor ship .Marangburu is the protector and the only medium of communication between “Thakur”, i.e., God and human kind

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    5. SARI DHORAM part-4
      With the passage of time and complexities of incidents, the progeny on “Pilchu Haram” and “Pilchu Buhri” kept on enlarging the members of the society. They took up cultivation as their occupation and started to live a community life. But with the growth of population man tended to be indiscipline and heretic. They went against the established social rules and principles for which “Thakur” had created them. Being outrageous “Thakur” started to shower fiery sparks in the human soul. As a result, the human race was on the verge of destruction. In this situation “Thakurain” held the hands of “Thakur” and appealed to him to control his rage. The great “Thakur” calmed down on condition that Marangburu would bring back the human race on the path of virtue, righteousness and religion. “Thakurain” called Marangburu and apprised him of the development. Thakurain gave the decors and ornaments of “Thakur”, the plume of peacock for the use in turban and anklet. She also gave all her dresses and ornaments like conch-bangle, vermilion and collyrium etc for distribution among the humans. She advised Marangburu to see that man wore all these dresses on the earth and chanted to invoke “Thakur and Thakurain”. And only then human race may be saved. Marangburu with company of twelve “Dashai Guru Boga” (Gods) came down on to the earth and met the human race, danced in those dresses and chanting the glory of “Thakur and Thakurain”. Thus, the desire of Holy Thakurain with the help of Marangburu was completed.When the people on earth was deeply celebrating the “Dashai” festival. Both the Thakur and Thakurain were happy and the rage and wrath of Thakur was mitigated and the human race was saved from destruction.”Dashai” is celebrated in the month of Dashai Chandu(Aswina).It start On the 6th day of the “Bright fort night” of the month Dashai Chandu(Aswina) which is called “Belboron”.This day people welcoming “Dashai Guru Boga” (Gods) .From seventh day of “Bright fort night” to ninth day of “Bright fort night” of the Dashai Chandu(Aswina) people Dance Dashai and visit all home in village. Among the participants in the “Dashai” festival some men dressed as women as the symbols of Thakurain and some adorn themselves in the dresses with plumes of peacock, on their heads to symbolise Thakur. Actually “Dashai” festival is to sing in praise the glory of Thakur and Thakurain.

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    6. SARI DHORAM part-5
      Everything was sailing very smoothly; population of man and woman was growing. But they started to commit another crime. They ignored and neglected cattle, the great wealth that they got from Thakur through Marangburu. They were advised to take great care of the cows and drink their milk after offering it to Gods and take the help of bullock to cultivate their land and grow craps for their living.

      But they took benefit from the cows and bullock without caring them. They drank up all the milk without offering it to Gods and also left the calves unfed. They made the bullocks toil hard on land but did not care to give them fodder, so the cows and bullocks were in great distress and were on the verge of destruction. They complained to the Thakur against men on their inhumanity and appealed to Thakur take them back to heaven to save them. Thakur become angry again and decided to take them back to heaven. Thakurain happened to know of the development and prayed to Thakur “Oh! Lord, if you take back the cows and bullocks to heaven, the whole human race will die in starvation. Please do not forget that the human race is also our creation. She requested to Marangburu to make the men take as much care possible for the cows and bullocks. You please control your anger”. Thakur controlled His anger and was pacified. Thakurain asked Marangburu to motivate the human race to arrange to worship cows and bullock in the lunar day of ‘Sohrae Candu’(kartika Month). Accordingly, following the sermons of Marangburu man worshipped cows and bullocks. But before that man washed them well, applied vermilion on their fore head, besmeared Oil on their Horns, and decorated their bodies applying different colours. They kept paddy, grass and enkindled lamp on a dish and offered “Chumara”(Arti) to the cow accompanied with hymns from the Religious Songs. Throughout the night they went from house to house chanting the hymns to keep the cows awake and they did so with musical instruments. Thakurain showed Thakur the charming scenery from heaven. This celebration is known as “SOHRAE” (celebration with the cows) on earth. Thus, with the active intervention of Thakurain, the human race was saved again.

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    7. SARI DHORAM part-6
      Thakur realised that in want of a religious discipline man is going astray time and again. So, he ordered Marangburu to formulate a religions’ limitation or periphery including all rituals and rites which each and every member of the mankind would have to follow. And man lived in a strict social life.

      To honour the instruction of Thakur, Marangburu ventured out unto the earth with intention to induct religious discipline, morality, sense of ethics and all other virtue in man. Men went to different trees, which were God incarnate to them, but failed to understand the truth underlying religion. They continued to search for this truth for long two hundred years. Thakurain could not bear this failure of men and she herself appeared before men in form of a “Matkom Tree”. Men tried hard but yet failed to realise the depth of complete truth. At long last Thakur Himself came down to the earth in form of the Great “Sal Tree”. Sitting under this Sal Tree, the incarnation of religion and Truth, knowledge and wisdom, man attained the power to understand the deeper meaning and divergent impact of Truth.

      That was a grand occasion. The oracle resounded. All the Gods and Goddesses assembled under. Godly Sal Tree. There was a great assemble of men on earth resembling to the Assemble of Gods in heaven. Thakur made His presence on earth in the form of Sal tree and Marangburu made his presence in the form of a piece of stone to lie underneath the Sal Tree.

      In Santhali language Sal tree is called “Sarjom” and the great Sal Tree which is the embodiment of Thakur is called “Sari sarjom” and the meaning of ‘Sari’ is Truth. That means in the world of mortality only Thakur is the “Ultimate Truth”. As Thakur is worshipped in this earth, the name of this religion is “Sari dharom”. So, in “Sari dharom” it is seen that the people of the Santhal Community worship a piece of stone under a Sal tree. The place under the Sal tree is called “Jaherthan”. In every Santhal village there is unmistakably a “Jaherthan”. The Gods and Goddesses who are worshipped here are Marangburu, Jaher Era, Dharom Gonsai, Mare-Ko, Turui-Ko, haram Gosain Purudhul etc. though Thakur Thakurain exist on earth in the form of the Great Sal Tree and Matkom Tree, men has not the capacity or access to worship them because, they are the God and Goddess of the Gods and Goddesses. So, on earth Thakur and Thakurain are not worshipped.

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      Every Santhal village is “Jaherthan” based. Members of the managing committee of this “Jaherthan” are Manjhi, Paranik, Jogmanjhi, Godet and Nayake. In a village they are known as “Ato-Morehor”(Panchajon,or a body of five). These five members look after the well-being of a village concerned. Head of the managing committee is the “Manjhi” and Nayake is the priest of the “Jaherthan”.

      “Manjhi” is the Head of the Santhal Community. He controls the Community taking advice and suggestion, if necessary from others. Every villager is considered to be the Child of the “Manjhi”. So, “Manjhi” is called “Manjhibaba” also. Without a “Manjhi”, a Santhal community is blind and rudderless. Every childbirth in a village is brought to the notice of “Manjhi”, who with the help of the midwife sanctifies the lying-in-room.

      When the baby attains the age of nine months, the “Manjhi” including others members of the “Ato-Morehor”(Panchajon) christens the baby and owns him as a member and follower of Sari dharom. This is done through a celebration organised by the respective householder called “Chacho-Chhatiyar”.

      When the boy or the girl attains marriageable age, Manjhi-baba conducts all the ritual of the marriage ceremony.

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      The marriage ceremony is entirely religion based. Both the bride and the bride-groom are imbibed with the spirit and feelings of Thakur and Thakurain through religious rituals because Thakur and Thakurain created man & woman on this earth and this bride and bride-groom again create or give birth to further progeny. Before the earthly marriage, there is a spiritual marriage in the “asman” that is in Swargapuri (Heaven). The marriage takes place before sunrise, i.e. at dawn. As a part of the rituals, during this marriage ceremony the bride is seated in a “Daurah”( ceremonial basket) and five of the elder brothers of the bride-groom lift the basket as high as possible. On the other hand, the brother-in-law of the bride-groom lift him on his shoulder and this both the bride and the bride-groom are taken to a place covered with green twigs called “Chhamda” or “Chhamda tala” under which an alter is made with twigs of Sal Tree and Matkom Tree to represent Thakur and Tahkurain and in front of this alter two ceremonial pots or pitchers are placed filled with water. Then the bride and bride-groom are turned round thrice anti-clock wise in the lifted condition (as the earth moves rounded the sun). Then the bride-groom removes the veil from the head of the bride and applies vermilion. This is called “Sindur – Daan”. During this auspicious moment everybody present Chants “Haribol”. This is done to invoke Omnipotent Thakur. Thus, the union of human Thakur – Thakurain in the form of the bride-groom and bride in front of the twigs of Sal and Matkom, the embodiment of Thakur and Thakurain is called marriage. Under the “Chhamda” or “Chhadnatala”, Marangburu, Jaher-era, Dharom Gosain and other Gods and Goddesses like More-ko, Turui-ko are worshiped and complete religion fervour is created. After death also the last rites are completed under direct supervision of the “Manjhi”. the Head of council of Santhal society. After burning of the dead body, a piece of circular bone from the forehead is collected. This piece of bone is called “Jangbaha”, it is floated in “Telkupigaya ghat” meaning flowing river. The philosophy of this ritual is that after death man goes back to the same place from where it had originated. The human soul is offered into the ever flowing ocean where Thakur and Thakurain created human life. So, in the funeral procession, the people chant “Horibol” praying to offer the dead body to be united with the great lord, Thahur. And an appeal is made for the dead body to be absorbed in the five primary elements. This philosophy of the “Sari dharom” of the Santhal community finds its essence in different social and religious songs. Every social celebration or ceremony gets its completeness and perfections through the singing of these Songs. These Songs are carried through the ages by hearing and memorising when they are sung on different ceremonial occasions. If these Songs are analysed, the inherent philosophy of “Sari dharom” can be found. This article will be a lengthy one if every detail of the philosophy of ‘Sari dharom’ and its social and religious impact and influence is explained.

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  3. why our religion name is sari dharam..??
    does it meaning true religion.

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    1. Sari dharam does not mean true religion, but mean the religion of Truth, that is ultimate or absolute truth.

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    2. But nowadays maximum santals are accepted the sarna dhorom.Are they the Baptist from santal community?

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    3. have any ultimate truth in the world?if yes,how one can feel it according to sari dorom?

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    4. Rabilal Murmu Gomke, it is true fact that many Santals are accepted sarna religion but that sarna religion is imposed on them by someone and that is only recent time. So your question is right because sarna religion has not originated from Santals mythology and that has no sound logical base or foundation. On the other hand in Sari dhorom has rooted or originated from their mythology and that has a sound logical foundation.

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    5. Sahag Mandi Gomke, there has Ultimate Truth in this world and it has termed different term in different religion. In Hinduism it is called 'Absolute' or 'Parambramha', sometime it is called 'Ultimate Truth/charam Sattya' or Sometime 'Rta'. In Santal religion that is in Saridharam 'Ultmate Truth' is called 'Thakur Jiu".

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  4. I think , its a new idea comes from some indian santals..

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    1. no never,you are wrong sir, sari dharom is not made by man .its originated by the LITO GODET ...that mean THAKUR,,GONSAI,,in the santal mithology,,and if you thinking its a ma made,then proof it how the possible.!!!!

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  5. To honour the instruction of Thakur, Mrarngburu ventured out unto the earth with intention to induct religious discipline, morality, sense of ethics and all other virtue in men. Men went to different trees, which were God incarnate to them, but faild to understand the truth underlaying religion. They continued to search for this truth for long 10 or 20 yeras.Thakurian could not bear this failure of men; so she herself appeared before men in for of a "Matkom tree". Men tried hard but yet failed to realise the depth of complete truth. At long last Thakur himself came down to the earth in form of the great "Sal tree". Sitting under this sal tree, the incarnation of religion and truth, knowledge and wisdom, men attained the power to understand the deeper meaning and divergrent impact of truth. In Santali language Sal tree is called "sarjom" and the great Sal tree which is the embodiment of Thakur is called "Sari Sarjom" and the meaning of 'Sari' is 'Truth'. That means in the world of mortality only Thakur is the "Ultimate Truth". As Thakur is worshipped in this earth, the name of this religion is "Sari Dhorom". So, in "Sari Dhorom" it is seen that the people of the Santal community worship a piece of stone under a Sal tree. The place under Sal tree is called "Jaherthan".

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  6. CRITICISM OF THIS NAME OF KHERWAL RLGN ::::::::::::::::::::::::::
    literary Sari means true, Povitra, Sagun. actually Sari is the theory of true empowerment and holly place of marangburu. naturally the word sari is a objective word. its can b translatable by any language.. where naturally other's religion name isn't b translatable rather its only can b meaning..
    if we translate it, its comes true religion, holly religion, sotya dhormo, pobitra dhormo, its seem totally awkard, unintelligent, n very cheap nature. truely sari isn't a historical n community identity of kherwal. religion is a big thing in a society. that cant be define by one small objective word. or cant b name by its nature. sari is way, ideal, moral of a religion. religion name by sari its meaning narrow arrogant. sari is a norms of kherwal ritual called 'Sari Aari' for worship Marangburu. so bring prosperity, bring devotional belief in kherwal religion to end the narrow supernatural belief we should name its by KHERWALISM. that's will b real pride as kherwal community. otherwish our future generation will b feel shame to exapress pridely sari dharam when they will felt its actual meaning. they will not get value, devotion from it until we develop it in modern devotional way. by touch of Hindu n Christian acculturisation they will not gets own religious belief, value... eventually nowadays santhal ppl feels hesitate to express their religion name by heart n pridely. they say it as formal. so for secure our religion n community identity as historical truth we should name it KHEWALISM. santhal is caste only not a community.. community means religious group socially, bt sari cant give us identity as community. as santhali we r not a religious group. look outside of the world there hv a sikhism, buddhism, Hinduism, Christianism as community bt we hv not any ism as community. santal's religion has described by sarna, sari, hindu, Christian in Wikipedia. its clear presently, we r standing in liberal approach in our own religion matter.. we cant sayin santhal means follwer of sari dharam only. as santhal we r nothing, rathe than caste only. if we name it kherwalism then our religion will be big, our all theory will b include in one word like hindu. nd the meaning of santhal will b the followers of kherwal religion. n converted santali will b deducted from santhal as origin identity.

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    1. Sir, your existance also a relative thing then have you said that you are not (exist)? No, we have no right to say that. Sir, if we derive the meaning of any by the literary then we could not gain the exact meaning of the word. So we have to search the connotation of the concerning word. If the member of the Santal Society has understand the Sari dharam and its impact on his day to day life the he/she can not felt shame to say own religion Sari dharam. Who can not understand their Sari dharam then that is their individual problem. They have to read our religious book but unfortune is that the Santals are unknowingly felt shame or disbelieve on their religon Saridharam and religious culture.

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    2. ᱟᱵᱚ ᱥᱟᱱᱛᱟᱲ ᱫᱚ ᱵᱟᱝᱠᱟᱱᱟᱵᱚ ᱦᱤᱱᱫᱩ, ᱵᱟᱝᱠᱟᱱᱟᱵᱚᱱ ᱥᱩᱫᱨᱚ. ᱟᱵᱚᱫᱚ ᱢᱤᱫ ᱴᱟᱝ ᱡᱟ.ᱛ ᱠᱟᱱᱟᱵᱚᱱ ᱡᱟ.ᱦᱟ ᱡᱟ.ᱛ ᱨᱮᱱᱟᱜ ᱧᱩᱛᱩᱢ ᱦᱩᱭᱩᱜ ᱠᱟᱱᱟ ᱥᱟᱱᱛᱟᱲ. ᱥᱟᱱᱛᱟᱲ ᱠᱚᱫᱚ ᱠᱷᱮᱨᱭᱟᱲ ᱢᱮᱱᱛᱮᱠᱚ ᱢᱮᱱᱚᱜ ᱟ ᱟᱨ ᱡᱟᱸᱦᱟ ᱜᱮ ᱠᱷᱮᱨᱭᱟᱲ ᱫᱷᱚᱨᱚᱢ ᱵᱚᱱ ᱢᱮᱱᱮᱛ ᱠᱟᱱᱟ ᱚᱱᱟᱜᱮ ᱥᱟᱨᱤ ᱫᱷᱚᱨᱚᱢ ᱠᱟᱱᱟ.

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  7. What to write in our religion ,if there is mentioned Hindu ,Muslim ,Shikh,Other

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    1. Yes, if we have no option to express our own religion Sari dharam then we write Others religion, because our religion Sari dharam is not recognized by the Indian Constitution but recognize to exprees or write our own religion Sari dharam. So, we have to recognized our own religion Sari dharm from our Indian Constitution. Then we will receive our constitution right of religion and then we write or express our own religion Sari dharam.

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  8. which religion are true sari dharam or sarna dharam? where are different from sari or sarna? why our religion are sari or sarna? please tell me.

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    1. Santal religion is not a simple statement that it may be true or may be false. Santal religion is SARI DHARAM and it follow the Santl since in memorial, and Sari dharam is based on holy write "JOM SIM BINTI" and also "KARAM BINTI". The Santals control their social life, individual life, religious life accordance with Sari dharam and what is known Kherwal dharam, Hor dharam that is nothing but Sari dharam.

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  9. It is my pleasure to inform you that BHARAT JAKAT SARI DHARAM BAISI is scheduled to organized the 9th ALL India Sari Dharam Conference - 2017 at Kamarpara High School (Near Khanyan Rail Station), Brindabanpur, Hooghly, West Bengal on 28th (Saturday) and 29th (Sunday) October 2017.
    We the Santhals being the follower of Sari Dharam, will exchange our views to strengthen our religious movement. Many learned personalities, philosopher and social reformers belonging to Sari Dharam from different part of our Country and foreign Country (Bangladesh, Nepal & England)will grace the Conference to promote our Indigenous Identity.
    I am glad to invite all the Santhal's on this conference. Your glorious presence will be highly appreciated.

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  10. The conference was just fantastic awesome.

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  11. All India Sari Dharam Conference 2018 will be organised at Sirishgora, Bandwan, Purulia, West Bengal & 2018 Conference organised at Sirishgora Football Ground,Bandwan, West Bengal on 17.02.2018 (Saturday) & 18.02.2018 (Sunday) organized by Purulia District SARI DHARAM BAISI UNIT-2. All Santhal's are cordially invited to this Bharat Jakat Sari Dharam Baisi Conference 2018.
    We the Santhals being the follower of Sari Dharam, will exchange our views to strengthen our religious movement. Many learned personalities, philosopher and social reformers belonging to Sari Dharam from different part of our Country will grace the Conference to promote our Indigenous Identity.
    I am glad to invite all the Santhal's on this conference. Your glorious presence will be highly appreciated.

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  12. The world is on a turtle back.How can I believe it?

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    1. Welcome Murmu babu, yes,it is a mythological statement then if we derive the litaral meaning then we could not get the main theme or main theory as a result of this that we could not believe anything what is mentioned in mythology. But if we deeply think about that mythological statement then we find that there are scientific explanation. In Santals Saridharam scripture "Jomsim binti" what is mentioned as the 'turtle back' that is not mean the litearlly turtle back but there is a another meaning and that is analogous of the earth plate or geographical plate. And this earth is made by "lendet raj", the 'lendet raj' analogously mean the earthquack. So the earth is come up by the earthquack and that is analogily mentioned in Saridharam scripture- "Jomsim binti" before discovering of science. This earth is content of geographical plates and it also described as "golden disc on the back of turtle" in "Jomsim binti". So it not the statement that is unbelievable.
      Thank you, if any question arise on your mind please put on and we will try to give answer that satisfy your expected.

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  16. thanks for valuable information

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  17. If thakur is supreme then why not worship him directly?
    Who is thakur? Why we called " hari bol" during all important rituals ? Is He same as " Lord Hari" is Visnu and is Maragburu is Lord Shiva of Hindu .?


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    1. Why Brahman/ Baman are called to sing hare krishna hare Rama
      At the last day of death ceremony or last day of bhadan

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    2. In ancient time the Kherwar (the Santal) ancestors were worshiping only "Thakur Jiu". But latter they had got many bongs their wondering time, afterward they worship only the bongas and forgotten the "Thakur Jiu".

      "Thakur Jiu" is the Bongas of the Bonga..Supreme Being, the creator of the univers. He give us life, and makes everything in this univers.

      Yes, Sir, we call him "Hari" in some rituals when one is died or one whose marriage is performed. I think 'Hari' concept is differnt from the others because in Santali "Hari" means "Har udug ich" (the path finder or one who find us the righ way). So Hari concept is differntly grown up, but one thing is that occasionally the Santals live association of Hindu. For this reason the Hari concept may mixed up...

      No, Sir, Marang Buru is not the Lord Siva or Bishnu. And Thakur Jiu in not Marangburu, So Thakur Jiu is not Lord Siv, Bishnu or not Marangburu...But latter the Hindu are mixed up the two thoght of Tribal and Hindu and makes the Lord Siv..but Lord Siv is not the Marangburu at all...

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    3. I think 'Hari' concept is differnt from the others because in Santali "Hari" means "Har udug ich"

      Dear sir Don't tell I think, don't try to interpret and speculate
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      Support your statement with scrictural reference

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    4. Plz describe the activity of thakur ji...
      His appearance , work etc

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    5. Who are the other bongas ?
      How they forget thakur ji

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  18. Why so much concepts of ghost ,bhoot, dain is there in santhal caste.
    Why so much people keep worshipping
    Diffent bhoot bonga apart from Maragburu ?
    Other religion has very less case of these thing.why only in santhal these thing are there? And why Maragburu allow these things to happen if he is at all supreme?
    Why should we continue such a religon where you were always harrash by bhoot bonga and ojgha bonga?

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  19. Every religion has their own story of creation of this universe. but earth is only OK be.How to understand this fact.

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    1. Yes, in Santal religion has a own story of creation of this univers and Santal story of creation is very much similar to the scientific explanation of the univers.

      If we derive the literal meaning of the Mythological statement then we could not get the main theme or main theory as a result of this that we could not believe anything what is mentioned in mythology. But if we deeply think about that mythological statement then we find that there are scientific explanation. In Santals Saridharam scripture "Jomsim binti" what is mentioned as the 'turtle back' that is not mean the litearlly turtle back but there is a another meaning and that is analogous of the earth plate or geographical plate. And this earth is made by "lendet raj", the 'lendet raj' analogously mean the earthquack. So the earth is come up by the earthquack and that is analogily mentioned in Saridharam scripture- "Jomsim binti" before discovering of science. This earth is content of geographical plates and it also described as "golden disc on the back of turtle" in "Jomsim binti". So it not the statement that is unbelievable.

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    2. Big huch puch ...

      My question was earth is only one.
      But different religion has different story of how earth came..

      So who has created earth , the Himalaya , ganga, sun ,moon , jamuna, animal , plant ,,,,
      Your thakur or maragburu ,or Hindu God bhramha or Muslim God Allah or
      Christian God crist ?

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    3. the question was earth is only one.
      But different religion has different story of how earth came?

      It is true that earth is only one and it is also true that one earth is interpreted in different approaches or different perspective of view. Like this...there is one table and peoples are sitting around that table. Then they perceive the same table but their knowledge and view point is differ from each other. From the different angel or view of point, their knowledge is relatively true. In this way there is so many opinion regarding on thing. In this way there is so many schools in Indian Philosophy or religion which are based on only one "Veda". The "Veda" is their foundation or ground, and based on this ground different schools are raised.

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    4. So world is one but there is so many theory about the creation of the world because there is so many religion scripture, so many mythology, so many faith, so many belief. That is why there is different opinion about creation of the earth.

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    5. In "Jomsim Binti"regarding the cration : "Jug do monchopuri chelehon bako taheg kana. Thakur-Thaakraan erong devalok serma reko tanheg kana."


      In Rgveda: " There was not non-existent nor existent:
      there was no realm of air, no sky beyond it. (Rgveda. X.129)

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  20. Which one is perfect sari dhorom or sarna led by pt raghunat murmu.or kerwal dharam by Ramdas TUDu

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    1. Only Sari dhorom is perfect religion of the Santal.

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    2. Proof it that sari dhorom is perfect.

      Just saying is not enough .that any one can tell.
      "My religion is the best"

      " My country is best "
      "My caste is best"
      And finally
      " I am best and perfect"


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  21. Who are actuall kherwal and what is their philosophy.
    There are yet another branch by dasarath manjhi and sect like sapha hor of pakur ? So which one is perfect?

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  22. Who are 12 dasai bonga .what is there name?

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    1. সরগপুরী থেকে যে ১২ জন গুরু (দেবতা) নেমে এসেছিলেন তাঁদের নাম হল (তাঁদের নামে মতপার্থক্য থাকলেও) – ১। ধরম গুরু, ২। কামরু গুরু, ৩। ভুয়ৗং গুরু, ৪। সিধ গুরু, ৫। সিদো গুরু, ৬। গান্ডো গুরু, ৭। চেমেঞ গুরু, ৮। নরসিং গুরু, ৯। কাঁশায় গুরু, ১০। ভায়রো গুরু, ১১। ভেন্ডরা গুরু, ১২। রহড়া গুরু।

      ᱑. ᱫᱷᱚᱨᱚᱢ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱒. ᱠᱟᱢᱨᱩ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱓. ᱵᱷᱩᱭᱟ.ᱝ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱔. ᱥᱤᱫ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱕. ᱥᱤᱫᱳ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱖.ᱜᱟᱱᱰᱳ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱗. ᱪᱮᱢᱮᱧ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱘. ᱱᱚᱨᱥᱤᱝ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱙. ᱠᱟᱸᱥᱟᱭ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱑᱐. ᱵᱷᱟᱭᱨᱚ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱑᱑. ᱵᱷᱮᱸᱰᱨᱟ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ, ᱑᱒. ᱨᱚᱦᱲᱟ ᱜᱩᱨᱩ.

      1) Dhorom Guru, 2) Kamru Guru, 3) Sidh Guru, 4) Sido Guru, 5) Gando Guru, 7) Chemeng Guru, 8) Narsing Guru, 9) Kansai Guru, 10) Bhairo Guru, 11) Bhendra Guru, 12) Rahra Guru.

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    2. They are guru or bonga?
      And what is their teaching?

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    3. Supai tudu Gomke, they are Guru in one aspect and another aspect they are the bonga of the Dansai Wondering (Dansai Daran/Dansai Festival). Their teaching are found in various kinds of Dansai songs that has sung during dansai festival. The objective of their teaching is to attain the salvation from the suffering, from the sorrow, from the non-moral action.

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    4. How to attain salvation and free from suffering a/c to them?
      What are the teaching given in dansai song?

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    5. Why we are suffering and what is our real identity?

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    6. What is the purpose of life?

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    7. According to Sntal mytholohy and Saridhorome the purpose of life is self realisation and realisation ABSOLUTE or Ultimate truth.

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    8. We are suffering because we don't know ourself or our self identity. So our thought is limited on our bodily or physical needs and we try to achieve our needs and we get suffer from that desire instead of fulfil our needs.

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    9. OK...then
      Exactly what is self realization ? And how to become self realized?

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    10. And what sari dhorom community is doing on that direction?

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    13. Austric Civilization of India: Pre-Vedic Kherwal Civilization”

      ...During the “Dasain” they pay homage to the people who suffered for them and who laid down their lives for the “Des and Disham” (motherland). During this festival, they worship the motherland by putting “sunumesindoor” (vermilion mixed in oil) and “Aynamkajal”(Surma and Kajal) in the Khand and thus at the beginning of the programme, the “Guru” asks the “Chelas” (disciples) when they asked for “Sunume Sindoor” and “Aynam Kajal” from him:
      ᱪᱮᱛᱮ ᱞᱟᱜᱤᱫᱛ ᱪᱮᱞᱟ ᱦᱳ ᱥᱩᱱᱩᱢᱮ ᱥᱤᱸᱫᱩᱨ?
      ᱪᱮᱛᱮ ᱞᱟᱜᱤᱛ ᱪᱮᱞᱟ ᱦᱳ ᱟᱭᱱᱚᱢ ᱠᱟᱡᱚᱞ ᱫᱚ?

      Thus the “Guru” asks his Chelas “Oh Chela, please tell me why do you want from me sacred oil bound vermilion (Sunume sindoor) and why do you need the “Aynam Kajal” (Surma and Kajal)?”
      Then the Chelas replied:
      ᱫᱮᱥᱞᱟᱜᱤᱛᱜᱩᱨᱩᱦᱳᱥᱩᱱᱩᱢᱮᱥᱤᱸᱫᱩᱨ
      ᱫᱤᱥᱳᱢᱞᱟᱜᱤᱛᱜᱩᱨᱩᱦᱳᱟᱭᱱᱚᱢᱠᱟᱡᱚᱞᱫᱚ।
      The Chelas reply that they wanted “Sunume sindoor” (oil bounded vermilion) to decorated the country. Thus they pay their homage to the motherland through the celebrations of Dansain every year.

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    15. In song no-03 taught us that how we conduct, how we behave or how we respect each other. Where there is no moral conduct, there is no ethical life, no society. But where there is human society there are moral life, moral conduct, good conduct. That is why human society is different from the animal world. Because men has a moral obligation, they respect each other. So in this song represent the conduct and behaviour of the Guru and disciples (greeting). In Kherwal Santal society there are various kinds of "greeting"...like, "So johar (So Greeting), "Balaya Johar" (Balaya greeting) etc.

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    16. Dansai songs represent the teachings about Mind, body and Soul and their relation. b) Body and Souls nature that is these songs are represent us the knowledge of human nature, Sel-knowlege.

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    17. The Self-knowledge is presented in devotional way by means of singing and dancing. In Dansai song the body is termed as "luguburu ghanta bare", "triyo", "Banam", "Bhuyaang", "Garke" etc. and Soul is termed as, "Laauria" or "the controler" or "handler", "lugu lumaam", "bonga kora" of "bonga boy", "Bonga kuri" or "Bong girl" etc.

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    18. SUPAI TUDU,

      Babu, your all question are philosophical question i.e., 1) What is our real identity? 2) What is absolute truth? 3) Why we are suffering and what is our real identity? 4) What is the purpose of life? 5) what is self realization ? And how to become self realized? 6) How to attain salvation and free from suffering? 7) And what "Sari Dhorom Community" is doing on that direction? These all question are pure philosophical question, so how would I given the answer of them? I try to answer your question later. Thank You Supai.

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    19. I want to know why people go to durga puja mandir and do dasai enec at the time of durga puja are they worshipping durga puja or honouring the thakur the creator

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  23. Sаntal do aкошак dноroм renaк иutuм ge вако ваdae каn танеn

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    1. Sari ge Rabilal Gomke, adi Santar ge akowag dhorom nit hong bako badaya ar aouri ko urum darehwag aa..

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    2. True , chedak se Santar jawan ko do
      Handi purwo aar kudi bhulab khan time ge banko nan da ko....

      Almost all of the santal youth are not interested in dharam ,and spirituality ,in getting liberation...
      They are more interested in handi , purwo , pata Tandi, smoking, animal killing, kudi patao..in selfish agenda ...
      Killing each other using bonga...
      Hate each other..
      Hatred among santal families is very common

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    3. That's very true supai tudu even after knowing all kind of nonsense happening in around them still they are ignorant. This is the height of ignorance. Who will go and take interest in Santhal dharam if this kind of nonsense are being observed

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    4. Santhal people have not rcv the teaching of sari dharam then how Will they come to know abt it

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  24. Subrat dada...
    Is this correct
    https://www.youthkiawaaz.com/2017/12/from-durga-to-hudur-durga-the-other-side-of-the-story/

    Are we ancestor of mahisasur ?

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    1. https://wap.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/not-just-durga-mahishasur-also-worshipped-in-india-116030100361_1.html

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    2. https://m.patrika.com/hazaribagh-news/santhal-society-totems-mahishasura-1418069/

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    3. https://aainanagar.com/2017/05/20/hudur-durga/amp/

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  25. Subrat dada...
    Is this correct
    Are we ancestor of mahisasur ?

    No, brother we (Santals) are not the worshiper of Mahisasur and never be our God or Devota. Mahisasur is not our ancestor and nor we successor of Mahisasur, because we (Santal) have no headache about Mahisasu and worship to Mahisasur.

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  26. SUPAI TUDU

    boiha, nowado adi dukh reyag katha kana je abo Santar ko nit hon Santar idi kated baday banug takowa. Diku pusi abo chetan janha ko ol tol akada ona ko parhaw katege nongkako ol eda..

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  27. SUPAI TUDU

    Boiha... Mahisasur do Santar korage hui dareyag aa...njutum do Maaisa Soren > Mahisasur. Ar banh Kol (Ho) Kora kanay mendo Kherwar gosthi kora kanai...nowa do ekdom sari katha kana. Menkhan nowa Sari katha bang kana je abodo Mahisasur ren Bonsodhor kana bon se Uni do Abo ren Agil Hapram kanay...nowa do men bang ganog kana...

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  28. SUPAI TUDU

    Boiha...

    Mahisasur do Santar kora kan rehoni...Mahisasur do Santar do banko deva-sevaye kana...Uni pujaa pasa ay renag bohog-hasu (matha-betha) ge banug takowa Santar kowag.

    AR Dansai Danran re uni Mahisasur do Abo Santar do babon bonga-buru ay kana..Santar do chhatik ren Durgaa enga (ayo) hon banko deva-sevaye kana..huyug Dansai Danran talate ar huyug etag pujaa talate...okatag tehon Durgaa hon bang ar Mahisasur hon abodo babon deva-sevayet kina...


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  29. SUPAI TUDU

    Boiha...

    Dukh reyag katha kana...Santar onolia janhay one onka...website re blog post benao kate Santarag culture, tradition ko ol parsal eda...unku Santar do Santar idi kated perfect knowledge ge banug takowa..ekal name, fame menet njutum hatao lagit, hero benag lagit ko kami kana..onatedo Santarag ched utnaao hon bako utnaao eda borng Santarg bikriti lagit ko dhuraao akana.

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  30. SUPAI TUDU

    Boiha...

    Chhatik kowag Durgaa Pujaa do nevetar (sur din reyag kana) reyag kana...ar Santarag Dansai Danran do adi seday reyag kana...(janich khan chhatik khon adi adi marang reyag kana) enkhan oka lajao teko o-ol kana je
    durgaa pujaa re Santar ko Mahisasur ko pujaa ay kana???

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  31. SUPAI TUDU

    Boiha....

    am do baanj metam kana boiha...alom asketog aa! menkhan asket bujhaaog kana...onate nonkan kathaanj roret kana...

    Tulaa-jokha reyag to simaa tanhena..se bang? Compare kated milaao eda ko diku ko chhatik ko...ado Santar do unku aag katha ge gohor baray me...ar metamako...Santar hon to Durgaa pujaayeda ko...oto-eb..Santals are Hindu...but I raise a question to them that what is your basis to presupposing this??? I told will told them boldly that Santals are not Hindu, Never be Hindu. Santals are not worshiping any Hindu God; because Santals are not belief in idol or image of God and nor worship any idol or image.

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  32. SUPAI TUDU

    Boiha..Nowa kodo jhoto Hidukoron prokriya chalag kana...Santal ar etag adivasi koway Festival ko Hindu Festival kana proof lekahan geto Santar ar etag adivasi ko hon Hindu kana ko....nowa katah adi paka pakig takowa..ar Aboren SANTAR hon bon goro ako khan ma akowag ched etke-tore (problem ge) bang tako..

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  33. SUPAI TUDU

    Boiha...
    Hudur-Durgaa do Santar njutum kan rehon dikuowag Durgaa pujaa do Santar do bako manaoyet kana...
    Hudur-Durgaa chetan janhay Santar ko ol-tol eda se ol kate ko parsal eda ona tattwa se Theory do vul geya.
    bang thik geya...

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  34. SUPAI TUDU

    Babu.... Thik onkage... aboren bonga buru kodo...Marangburu, Jaher Era, Moreko-Turuiko r More bochhor por por Sinj-Bonga ko pujaa akaowa...sebon deva sevayet kowa..

    Onkage Dansai Danran redo..Thaakraan e vejao akda sunum sindur ge more maha, okoy do pe maha nonka lekate atuke atu horag duwaar ke duwaar sunum sindur bon asen eda...

    Nui Thaakraan do diku ren Durgaa enga (ayo) doy bang kana.. nui do sunum sindur duwarr duwaar asen talate Dukh-e gog idiyeda...
    dhuk-go, dukh-go > Duggaa > Durgaa janhay do abowag dhukh hareket, shaset e gog idiyeda..uni Thaakraan.

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  35. Babu, Supai

    Nonka lekate...aboren ayo hor ko, enagt, daai, kaki, hatom ko-ko mena tehenj do Thaakraan era-y bolon kana...
    Nui Thaakraan do bang kanay diku ren Durga se Parboti do..Nui do Thaakur Jiu rinich era Thaakraan kanay..
    nonka lekate..Dansai Danrara saonte do dikuwag Durgaa pujaa saote Santarag Dansai Danran renag ched Jog-sutra ge banug anag.

    Mendo, Santar do Mahisasur hon bang ar diku Durgaa ayo hong bang ko deva-sevayet kinaa...nowa do abo baday huyug tabona.

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  36. Babu Supai,

    This is totally wrong concept that "Apparently, not many people are aware of the festival, which is known as Dasai among the Santhals."
    But it is true that many Santal and non-Santals are mis-interpreted the Santals Dasai Festival and it is also true that many Santal who writting the Dasai Festival artical are obviously not known perfectly about their Dasai Festival.

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  37. SUPAI TUDI

    BOIHA,,,
    Mid tang Dasai serenj khon inj laay eda....1) "Lugu-buru Lugu-lumaang", 2) "Ghanta-Bare Laouriyaa"...nowa katha reyag meaning ki baday menag tabona??????

    Janich banug aa....hoy,,nowa reya meaning do meaning do....Hormo-Mone-jiwi ren laouriyaa do uni Lugu lumaang kanay..,Lugu Lumaang do Jiwi kanay (Lugu-Lumaang is the Soul of the human body and Soul is the sole controler of the mind, body).

    Nonka ge ayma serenj menag aa..nowa dasai serenj redo Santar kowag "atma tattwa se atmo tattwo (theory of Self and body) sodor akana....

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  38. Boiha Supai Tudu,

    Am janha artical korenag link em em akada ona ko jhoto do aourinj parhaw aa...parhaw kate arhon answer konj kol aa...

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  39. Babu Supai,

    Tobe Dasai Daran cheta artical ko ol bara akadaanj to ona te baday aanj oka do perfect history kana Dasai daran rena...nowa reya barya origin njel njamog aa....ona kin tuluch kated inj njel akada je...diku kowa Durgaa pujaa saote do Santarg Dasai Daran reng "Bindu matro sonjog se mil banug aa...there is not a single point of similarity and nor a single link in between Santals Dasai daran and Durga puja...). ched link ge banug anich.

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  40. Subrat Tudu ji, I am researching on ancient past of India specifically on relation between Aryans and adivasis. I want religious books of adivasis to find any information on this point. If possible help me.

    My mobile no-8862870100(WA).
    stykom@gmail.com
    stykam@rediffmail.com

    Kumar Satyakam
    Assistant Director
    Social Welfare Department
    Bihar Government

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  41. RIGVED of Sanatan dharm (Hindu) describes Rakshas, daitya, Asur etc. Who were these? Were they adivasis? These rakshas and asur were very strong and RIGVED's rushing munis demand patronage against them. It seems war continued for centuries and Aryans suffered a lot at the hands of these asur. God knows how Aryans managed to win and push Smart as towards forests,mountains and South India. Hatred of that period still continued for centuries. Will the learned persons of this platform throw light on this matter?

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